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It’s Just Jokes! (An Open Thread)

What’s the old quip? “Writing about humor is like dancing about architecture.”

Well, we finna do it anyway.

By now, we’ve all seen/opined on/dissected The New Yorker cover and the fallout from it, so I’ve no interest in rehashing any of that. But one of the frequent criticisms of that cover among those who thought the satire “didn’t work” was that it was tasteless and unfunny, as if there’s some general consensus on where those lines are for everyone. “Jokes are supposed to be funny and this isn’t funny,” one commenter said on another blog.

But how true is that? As my oldest friend, a stand-up comedian, likes to say, when someone makes a joke that includes, say, up, up, down, down, left, right, left right, B, A, Start, the people who chuckle aren’t laughing because it’s funny, but reflexively responding to some nugget that only makes sense to their demographic. And that i-get-it! factor seems to be an integral part of humor: reaffirming in-group identification. A joke needn’t be funny, per se: it just needs to speak to some understood truth among a certain demographic.

A friend of mine who is a feminist and progressive would often say horribly problematic things because she knew I understood that she was joking. (”It’s okay because I know better,” she’d say with a smirk.) But were someone to hear a snippet of our conversation, they could assume all kinds of stuff about her.* Of course, a lot of times people say things in jest that may reflect the way they actually feel, but there’s probably not a perfect way to divine when that’s happening.

On the flip, I have a friend who doesn’t like Chappelle, whose humor superficially looks like making silly race jokes as opposed to being really pointed jabs at the absurdity of racism.** She worries that there are plenty of (white) people who laugh at the jokes who won’t pay attention to the sleight of hand, and will just see the broad stereotype as a reinforcement of racists views they may not even know they’re harboring. ***

This is just a hunch, but I think much of the furor over the New Yorker cover came from outside of its audience; the people who “didn’t get the satire” were people who aren’t New Yorker readers and so probably less familiar with the arch (smug?) way in which that magazine tends to approach the world, or the magazine’s politics. Their editorial staff probably assumed their readers would get it, but probably insufficiently considered how the cover would look devoid of context, which is how most people who see it will view it. And in humor, context is everything.

So here’s the question I want to ask — no right or wrong answer, obviously, just kicking it around: what, if any, responsibility does a person making a joke wield if that joke has the potential to offend or propagate a malicious idea when not being viewed/read/heard by its intended audience?

*It’s part of the reason I couldn’t get all bent out of shame about the McCain ‘cunt’ comments. It’s a bad look to assume that ribbing between spouses in animated by antipathy, even really vulgar, sexist ribbing.

** Sarah Silverman does the same thing, but it goes over less well with a lot of people for myriad reasons.

*** Contrast that with Chris Rock’s Less satiric and more problematic Niggas vs. Black People riff.

Basically.

Goodbye to “Sister Souljah.”

by publius over at Obsidian Wings. cross-posted with permission.

I keep hearing that Nutsgate is a “Sister Souljah moment” for Obama. Frankly, it’s annoying me. First – it’s not a Sister Souljah moment at all. Second – I’m sick of that term. It’s time to retire the Sister Souljah label altogether. It’s inaccurate, and even borderline racist. More…

This Week’s New Yorker Cover.

To me it seems like an attempt to show how ridiculous all the crypto-Muslim/anti-American whisper-campaigning has been, especially since the New Yorker has been more or less been banging the Obama drum for months (especially Hertzberg). I chuckled, remembering some of their other covers lampooning the ridiculous assertions being made in this campaign. And though I get how it may look out of context — which is the way most people will almost certainly view it — is the New Yorker responsible for them missing the point?

The folks over at Jack and Jill Politics are absolutely apoplectic (to be fair, that’s sorta their default setting).

You CANNOT pull this satire-oh-so-smart cover bullshit with BLACK PEOPLE.

What the fuck is wrong with The New Yorker. [sic]

This is INSANE.

I don’t know what country they live in, but I live in A-merry-ca.

And this racist drivel isn’t funny.

Ta-Nehisi and his partner debate the issue.

She’s a little more pissed than me–particularly about the Michelle Obama pic and the Afro. I think the problem is that it’s very hard to satirize the rumors around Michelle and Barack. Satire needs overstatement. But the cover doesn’t actually overstate the beliefs of the scaremongers. Indeed its the sort of image you’d expect to see at one of the nuttier websites or publications, and so in that sense it doesn’t work very well.

ABC’s Jake Tapper:

Intent factors into these matters, of course, but no Upper East Side liberal — no matter how superior they feel their intellect is — should assume that just because they’re mocking such ridiculousness, the illustration won’t feed into the same beast in emails and other media. It’s a recruitment poster for the right-wing.

Thoughts?

Revenge of the Jungle That Is NYC Real Estate.*

Image from NY Mag.

Fascinating piece in New York this week on Willie Kathryn Suggs, one of the people most responsible for Harlem’s new ‘renaissance’: the first broker in Harlem to sell a house for a half-million dollars, the first to hit $850k and the first to sell a house for $2 million.

She’s also made a lot of enemies along the way, from Harlemites who resent her to driving up prices and greasing the wheels of gentrification, to former employees who said she screwed them out of commissions and properties.

But as Willie Suggs has changed the face of Harlem, much of Harlem has come to turn on Willie Suggs. Competing brokers and even some former sales agents now call her a predator, a bully, a thief—Willie Thuggs. Even by the aggressive standards of New York real estate, they say, she will boldly horn in on a listing, land a sale, or lay claim to a commission. “Everyone knows,” says one broker, “when you go to work with Willie Kathryn Suggs, you better watch your back.” Suggs has also become a lightning rod in Harlem’s larger gentrification debate. Critics say she has wantonly driven up real-estate prices until no one but the richest Harlemites could afford them and, worse, delivered much of the neighborhood into the hands of wealthy whites. Now every new sale she rings up seems to raise a pair of uncomfortable questions: Should Harlem be preserved forever as an affordable haven for blacks? Or should it be sold to the highest bidder?

Suggs more or less denies every fact the article presents in her Illiad-length response on site’s comments section. We can’t divine who is or isn’t telling the truth, obviously, but to assert that he got so much wrong is to make a pretty serious charge against him (and conversely the type of petty vindictiveness that would be consistent with his characterization of her, as well).

*Because summer is a time for sequels.

The Jungle That Is NYC Real Estate.

Crossposted from shanio over at the neo.

Brother Charlie Rangel, bless him, is renting not one, not two, not three… but four rent-stabilized apartments in one uptown building, for a fraction of what they would normally cost on the market. According to the Times:

Mr. Rangel, who was first elected to Congress in 1970 and is one of the city’s most recognizable elected officials, has written and spoken extensively about his devotion to his home in Harlem, but does not appear to have ever publicly acknowledged that he has been permitted to lease four rent-stabilized apartments there. According to a public records database and interviews with neighbors, he has lived in the building since the early 1970s, but it is not clear when he amassed the four units.

Mr. Rangel, 78, declined to answer questions during a telephone interview, saying that his housing was a private matter that did not affect his representation of his constituents.

“Why should I help you embarrass me?” he said, before abruptly hanging up.

I love it. Although, this is really just another case of the rich and powerful getting things for cheap, while the people who could really use a rent-stabilized place are getting the shaft. Ah, capitalism. Rangel, who did a lot of good back in the day, is old and comfortable, and I guess he feels like he’s getting his due.

But then again, His Awesomeness, NY Governor David Paterson, also has a rent-stabilized apartment in that building. And so does his dad, who pays less in rent for a one-bedroom than I do. I think I’m mad.

Overstating the Case, Part 2?

As usual with the Boondocks, the lampooning is so scattershot that it’s hard to figure out what they’re skewering. Are they criticizing BET? Are they criticizing the often-exaggerated criticism of BET? Huey’s naiveté? All of that stuff?

(h/t DrZRM.)

The Art of Selling Out.

Obama’s camp’s position on the FISA amendments* way back in October:

“To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies.”

And December:

“Senator Obama unequivocally opposes giving retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies and has cosponsored Senator Dodd’s efforts to remove that provision from the FISA bill. Granting such immunity undermines the constitutional protections Americans trust the Congress to protect. Senator Obama supports a filibuster of this bill, and strongly urges others to do the same.

And today:

The Democratic-led Congress this afternoon voted to put an end to the NSA spying scandal, as the Senate approved a bill — approved last week by the House — to immunize lawbreaking telecoms, terminate all pending lawsuits against them, and vest whole new warrantless eavesdropping powers in the President. The vote in favor of the new FISA bill was 69-28. Barack Obama joined every Senate Republican (and every House Republican other than one) by voting in favor of it, while his now-vanquished primary rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, voted against it. John McCain wasn’t present for any of the votes, but shared Obama’s support for the bill. The bill will now be sent to an extremely happy George Bush, who already announced that he enthusiastically supports it, and he will sign it into law very shortly.

Prior to final approval, the Senate, in the morning, rejected three separate amendments which would have improved the bill but which, the White House threatened, would have prompted a veto. With those amendments defeated, the Senate then passed the same bill passed last week by the House, which means it is that bill, in unchanged form, that will be signed into law — just as the Bush administration demanded.

Even JJP, some of the most ardently pro-Obama folks in the blogosphere, are pissed about his decision here.

What could possibly justify excusing Bush and the telecoms for what everyone seems to agree were illegal actions? Terrorism? Since when did we start wiping our behinds with the Constitution? I didn’t know that terrorism meant that laws on the book just don’t apply no more. Did you know that? …

Barack Obama should be standing up for common sense and morality in this case. He would get more points for standing up for the law and for our constitutional rights against illegal search and seizure. It’s no wonder that on his own social networking website, the most popular group is that opposing his backwards stance on the FISA legislation being voted on today. …

It’s a shame. I must admit I am disappointed that Barack Obama is not taking a stronger leadership stand for our rights as American citizens to be free of warrantless wiretapping. It’s more than a flip-flop. It’s a betrayal of his own supporters who’ve been pretty clear where they stand on the issue. Guess he’d prefer to allow George Bush to pull a thin veil of deception under the guise of “fighting terrorism” over his eyes.

I’m back to sitting on the fence with this cat, and may keep my ass there on Election Day.

*For those of you haven’t been following: FISA for Dummies.

The Heroines of Last Week.


(image from the Guardian)

(Crossposted From Bitch, Ph.D)

Remember the girls in Massachusetts who supposedly had a “pregnancy pact”?

By now everyone’s probably heard that the scandal has turned out to be bullshit. Quel surprise.

Anyone with half a brain suspected all along that the real deal was that some young women who were unintentionally pregnant decided, like actual responsible human beings!, to form a mutual support group. See, e.g., this article from Salon: What’s so wrong with a pregnancy pact? Because, duh, all parents need support, especially with young children; and single parents–mothers and fathers–need it a lot more than parents who are coupled up, what with not having a built-in support person right there in the house with them. So you know, if you’re single and pregnant and you know other people who are single and pregnant, forming a support group like that is a fucking brilliant–and highly responsible–thing to do. More…

Overstating the Case.

In a somewhat histrionic column on The Root, Janelle Jolley praises some major advertisers (Proctor & Gamble, GM, and McDonald’s among them) for pulling ads from BET’s 106 & Park and Rap City:

We’ve already suffered for years from this toxic material wreaking havoc in the core of our community and shaping the public’s perception of us. Our communities have watched as our youth have moved further and further away from our rich cultural and historical legacy and closer to the fictitious universe of media caricatures that bombard us daily: images of the black man as a wreckless [sic] and violent thug. These characterizations have instilled distrust and fear among law enforcement, which in the cases of Amadou Diallo and Sean Bell, ended in tragedy.

We dislike BET as much as anyone else, but isn’t this overstating the case a wee bit? Besides the annoying nod to the mythical Halcyon Days of Blackness — back when black folks were all proud and upstanding and God-fearing and looked out for each other and it took a village to raise a child and life-affirming soul music wafted from every window — this argument seems to give BET way more power than it probably deserves. For all of BET’s misogyny women and obnoxiousness, one of the big reasons it garners so much contempt (much of it very deserved) is because for the parents of the mostly teenaged viewership, it’s unapproachable, loud and bewildering — which is sort of the point. This ‘immoral youth’ refrain predates rap and rock and jazz and ragtime. And it’s always overheated.

And the through-line between 106 & Park to Amadou Diallo isn’t as neat as Jolley paints it. The distrust between members of law enforcement and black people predates BET by forever; there were countlessly more Diallos before BET was founded in 1980. This argument also assumes that cops are sitting around watching BET, which is not likely (more likely: they’re watching the local news, with all its insidious racial suggestions).

(Ugh. Can’t believe they got us playing devil’s advocate for BET over here. We need a shower.)