On ‘Benign Preferences.’

In a guest post over at TNC‘s place, Adam Serwer points to a problematic little paragraph tucked in the middle of Tracy Clark-Flory‘s takedown of John Mayer‘s assholery.

And what of Meyer calling his Johnson a racist? (Insert here: Tasteless joke about hooded Klansman.) Look, as a general idea, I don’t object to people having racial preferences when it comes to sex partners; it’s only human to imprint on certain physical traits and gravitate toward particular “types.” (Although I think it’s a great idea to challenge the limitations of your personal “love map,” as psychologists like to call it.) That said, it is one thing to state an enduring preference for, say, Asian women and another to pronounce: My dick hates black women!

I’m not sure the delineation she’s drawing here is so clear cut, and that the former (“a preference for Asian women”) is as harmless as she seems to be making it. I’ve known many women of color who have expressed ambivalence toward interracial dating for a host of reasons, but one that always comes up in conversations about these hypothetical couplings is a deep suspicion of being fetishized. (A good friend once said she would never date a non-Asian dude who had previously dated other Southeast Asian women, or “rice daddies.”) There is an implicit dehumanization of the person being “admired” that the admirer misses out on; a “preference” for wo/men who are _______ because someone feels that such people are “strong”/good in bed/easier to deal with/submissive is implicitly dehumanizing, and it’s a dehumanization that the admirer misses.

This is a point Latoya hits on over at Jezebel:

Race and where it intersects with love and sex is incredibly difficult to discuss. The line between preference and fetish is very thin, and often, many people accept stereotypical narratives about dating and race as truth. Mayer expresses bafflement at his own preferences, as if some magical fairy smacked him with a wand and suddenly they just aren’t attracted to entire racial groups. Don’t pull the “I don’t know why that is” shit – it’s internalized racism. We all have some. Groups of color internalize prejudices and enact them through colorstruck ideas about light-skin being more attractive than dark skin, or keen features being more attractive than broader ones. And society is full of programming waiting to inform people that Asian girls are submissive while Asian guys aren’t worthy of consideration. This type of racism manifests itself in phrases like “you’re pretty for a black girl,” or in all the times where the person you want to date doesn’t want to bring you home to meet the family.

Preferences aren’t benign forces – they have real impacts on the perception of desirability of certain groups of people, and Mayer willingly perpetuates this in his interview, alongside giving his black female fans a verbal smack in the face. Does it really matter who John Mayer wants to date or sleep with? In the grand scheme of things, no. But considering his deployment of well trod stereotypes about the undesirability of black women (complete with the “but I’d do her” exceptions), it isn’t just an issue with Mayer.

It’s hard to overstate just how much racialized dating preferences are freighted with essentialist ideas about masculinity and femininity — ideas they don’t become untethered even when someone is discussing a preference for dating intra-racially exclusively.

Adam, again:

But making the blanket statement that you aren’t attracted to an entire race of people strikes me as complete bullshit, because it reduces entire category of human beings to a set of assumptions drawn from a necessarily limited set of experiences. For the same reason, I don’t see how expressing “an enduring preference from Asian women” is any less problematic. If I was on a date with someone who expressed “an enduring preference” for biracial black Jews, I’d tip my Kangol hat, pick up my Kiddush cup and bounce–and not just because that’s mad specific.

Part of sexual maturity, I think, is learning the difference between what you’re attracted to and what simply validates you. This is why the stereotypical adolescent crush falls on people of certain social standing– the quarterback, the prom queen, etc. Blanket declarations of what races you are or aren’t attracted to strike me as tied to the same question of what kind of person does or does not validate you, and are therefore a question of immaturity. I don’t know any men or women–Asian, black, white, or otherwise–who want to be someone’s “validation” rather than their partner.

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Gene "G.D." Demby is the founder and editor of PostBourgie. In his day job, he blogs and reports on race and ethnicity for NPR's Code Switch team.
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  • I’m in the comments in a few places over at TNCs. This is a sensitive but very interesting subject for me because I resemble the remarks in so many ways and I’ll eventually want to make my children understand the reason for their own interracial existence one day. I do have more questions than answers on this subject but lots of personal opinions.

    My brown/black, sexual/racial/cultural preference is so real and strong they are simply an undeniable part of who I am. That is not me objectifying women to satisfy my fetishes. That is me doing me. We are all products of our environment. Fortunately for me, I grew up in a part of New York City that was filled with the most wonderfully beautiful shades of brown and black, and there just weren’t very many Anglos. That may sound silly or unbelievable if you don’t know the minority neighborhoods of NYC (I’ve been called FOS many times on this) but it’s not uncommon. Bedsty, El Barrio, Castle Hill, The Heights, there are many such places. I didn’t really know from White or Asian or even other Italians like me until I was well into HS. And so, I developed taste. I don’t think it’s really any different from developing taste in food for example. I’m not saying I don’t find Megan Fox or Angelina gorgeous, I do. I’m saying I’d probably have much more in common and prefer to date and spend time with Zoe Saldana and I find her more physically attractive.

    Every single significant relationship and moment from my first kiss to my 15 year marriage has been both a product and reinforcement of my (and their) preferences. There was one exception to that statement above, it didn’t last very long and it ended quite poorly, mostly because we had very little in common culturally and spiritually and very little understanding of where each other came from.

    I don’t think my very explicit preferences can be explained cleanly as either “fetish” or “bullshit,” or better yet, they are far too real to me to be reduced to such, but those sentiments are very common and are good explanations for so much of the stigma interracial couples have to endure in order for their relationship to survive. As an interracial couple we get it from all sides and it’s on the faces of people we meet and socialize with and pass in the street. Am I with her because she’s a hot Latin mami? Blacker the berry Mike? Did she hit the lotto? But what’s also interesting to me regarding this question of sexual/emotional preference is that very few questions are asked regarding same race preferences, those seems to be understandable or allowed under some unwritten rule in the grand scheme. No one looks twice as same race couples of any stripe.

  • NicoleB

    It’s difficult to have a discussion about this issue, since people so often go into knee jerk defensiveness: “We all have a right to our preferences! You can’t control what you’re attracted to!” Ok fine, but no one’s trying to say people don’t have a right to their preferences, it’s just that “preferences” are often formed based on pretty one-dimensonal assumptions about the personality traits of different races. For example, the common perception of black women as mean/demanding/violent/classless surely affects people’s perceptions of their desirability. Likewise, the view of Asian women as docile/submissive and Asian men as nerdy/effeminate/awkward affects perceptions of their desirability. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for people to acknowledge this.

    • Nicole, you are right about the defensiveness this issue raises in some. I am personally hyper-defensive when it comes to this subject and am so exactly because of the point you, Adam and Jezebel raise. The problem with having a serious discussion about race and sexual/emotional/cultural preference is not individual defensiveness but the starting point of the conversation itself. Paraphrasing you above could be read as: “People have a right to their preferences BUT the root of those preferences is shallow, misinformed and based on stereotypes that do not exist” That attempts to invalidate me before we’ve said hello.

      If avoiding knee jerk defensiveness is the solution to having this conversation rationally it might be better to not kick it off by describing something this important “as complete bullshit” or a place where “The line between preference and fetish is very thin.” When the conversation starts out that way the question can only become “how can I NOT be defensive?”