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		<title>By: The Omnivore&#8217;s Hundred. &#171; PostBourgie</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Omnivore&#8217;s Hundred. &#171; PostBourgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is a list of 100 foods omnivores should eat before they die, posted at Very Good Taste. It was too interesting to pass up, so I followed the instructions. And for the veggies out there (I&#8217;m not, but some of you are), here&#8217;s a list for ya&#8217;ll.  And on a serious-ish note, obviously, having access to these foods is a function of privilege, so think of this as another version of a privilege walk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is a list of 100 foods omnivores should eat before they die, posted at Very Good Taste. It was too interesting to pass up, so I followed the instructions. And for the veggies out there (I&#8217;m not, but some of you are), here&#8217;s a list for ya&#8217;ll.  And on a serious-ish note, obviously, having access to these foods is a function of privilege, so think of this as another version of a privilege walk. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: -ihsanamin-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-ihsanamin-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright.

-Mother went to college (Dropped out of Spelman. Had a baby...)
-Had more than 50 books in your childhood home (Mostly paperback versions. LOL)
-Were read children’s books by a parent (Yup!)
-Went to summer camp (Once in 1988, I think.)
-Had a phone in your room before you turned 18 (Just an extension of the same land line.)
-You and your family lived in a single family house (2BR rowhome.)
-You had your own room as a child (Only child.)
-Had your own TV in your room in High School (I lucked up with this.)
-Your parents took you to museums and art galleries as you grew up (Franklin Institute)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright.</p>
<p>-Mother went to college (Dropped out of Spelman. Had a baby&#8230;)<br />
-Had more than 50 books in your childhood home (Mostly paperback versions. LOL)<br />
-Were read children’s books by a parent (Yup!)<br />
-Went to summer camp (Once in 1988, I think.)<br />
-Had a phone in your room before you turned 18 (Just an extension of the same land line.)<br />
-You and your family lived in a single family house (2BR rowhome.)<br />
-You had your own room as a child (Only child.)<br />
-Had your own TV in your room in High School (I lucked up with this.)<br />
-Your parents took you to museums and art galleries as you grew up (Franklin Institute)</p>
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		<title>By: NDH,Esq.</title>
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		<dc:creator>NDH,Esq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... shows I certainly wasn&#039;t &quot;privileged&quot; enough for that exercise.
-Had a phone in your room before you turned 18
-Had your own TV in your room in High School
-Flew anywhere on a commercial airline before you turned 16</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; shows I certainly wasn&#8217;t &#8220;privileged&#8221; enough for that exercise.<br />
-Had a phone in your room before you turned 18<br />
-Had your own TV in your room in High School<br />
-Flew anywhere on a commercial airline before you turned 16</p>
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		<title>By: quadmoniker</title>
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		<dc:creator>quadmoniker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was the same or higher class than your high school teachers.
I had more than 500 books in your childhood home (my mom was definitely a reader.)
I was read children&#039;s books by a parent.
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18 (in addition to public school, which I&#039;m not sure counts, I had dance lessons and piano lessons.)
The people in the media who dress and talk like me are portrayed positively.
Went to a sumemr camp (though it was free!)
My parents bought me a car that was not a hand-me down from them (though it was 10 years old and cost $2,000, and I lived in a really rural area and worked so I needed to get around.)
I had a phone in my room before I turned 18.
My family and  I lived in a single family house (though most people do in my hometown, even if it&#039;s a mobile home, which we lived in until I was 6).
My parents owned their own house before I left home (and it was just hit by a tornado!).
I had my own room when I turned 14.
I was unaware of how muc heating bills were for my family, but that&#039;s because my mom didn&#039;t talk about money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was the same or higher class than your high school teachers.<br />
I had more than 500 books in your childhood home (my mom was definitely a reader.)<br />
I was read children&#8217;s books by a parent.<br />
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18 (in addition to public school, which I&#8217;m not sure counts, I had dance lessons and piano lessons.)<br />
The people in the media who dress and talk like me are portrayed positively.<br />
Went to a sumemr camp (though it was free!)<br />
My parents bought me a car that was not a hand-me down from them (though it was 10 years old and cost $2,000, and I lived in a really rural area and worked so I needed to get around.)<br />
I had a phone in my room before I turned 18.<br />
My family and  I lived in a single family house (though most people do in my hometown, even if it&#8217;s a mobile home, which we lived in until I was 6).<br />
My parents owned their own house before I left home (and it was just hit by a tornado!).<br />
I had my own room when I turned 14.<br />
I was unaware of how muc heating bills were for my family, but that&#8217;s because my mom didn&#8217;t talk about money.</p>
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		<title>By: G.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cindy: I think we should try to come up with a list we think works better. What say you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cindy: I think we should try to come up with a list we think works better. What say you?</p>
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		<title>By: GVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G.D.

At the time, I wrote my original response your second post and question hadn’t posted yet, so I just saw your question now. I’d like it if you would answer my question as well. What did you want to gather or accomplish from this “Privilege Walk”?


Your question to me was - “Would you take the same issue(s) with this exercise if it were focused on white privilege in lieu of class privilege?”

I would take issue with it if it had to do with race instead of the “Black Caste system”, however, the issues would be different. I’m obviously more sensitive to subject matter that focuses on my race and me than I might tend to be with issues that focus on other races. I’m aware of my biases and how in defending my race I might contradict points I would make in another discussion concerning another race. The problem lies for me in the divide. I think we as a race are so separated and taught to see ourselves as this or that instead of just one race dealing with the same effed up, systematically racist world that we get bogged down on inconsequential details that don’t help our cause at all. Now understand I’m not saying that we are all the same because of our skin color. I’m saying that as one race we need to be more united even with our difference to accomplish the goal of betterment for us all as a people. The main issue I take with the “Privilege Walk” and other “Have and Have not” conversations is that it never really leaves you with a resolutions just a bunch of reopened wounds on both sides of the financial divide as to who had what and who couldn’t get what. A person’s spirit, intentions, and actions should be the ruler by which you judge someone not their ability or inability to be able to charge a shirt at Aeropostale at 16.

Here&#039;s the thing I tend to not understand about you – after reading your responses it seems as if we had very very similar childhoods and you would have been standing in the same box as me with some other people more than a few steps behind us looking like “Oh G.D.. You’re one of them” Yet, you write as if your one of the people looking at the “privileged” from behind as they make excuses for their circumstances. I don’t claim to know you nor your background, but based solely on those answers – do you truly not understand the plight of the “black privileged” in an America that doesn’t believe he/she exist outside of the Cosby show - even amongst other blacks and even if they do that they’re automatically Oreos or less down for the cause? Do you acknowledge your own privilege and the avenues to success that it provided for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G.D.</p>
<p>At the time, I wrote my original response your second post and question hadn’t posted yet, so I just saw your question now. I’d like it if you would answer my question as well. What did you want to gather or accomplish from this “Privilege Walk”?</p>
<p>Your question to me was &#8211; “Would you take the same issue(s) with this exercise if it were focused on white privilege in lieu of class privilege?”</p>
<p>I would take issue with it if it had to do with race instead of the “Black Caste system”, however, the issues would be different. I’m obviously more sensitive to subject matter that focuses on my race and me than I might tend to be with issues that focus on other races. I’m aware of my biases and how in defending my race I might contradict points I would make in another discussion concerning another race. The problem lies for me in the divide. I think we as a race are so separated and taught to see ourselves as this or that instead of just one race dealing with the same effed up, systematically racist world that we get bogged down on inconsequential details that don’t help our cause at all. Now understand I’m not saying that we are all the same because of our skin color. I’m saying that as one race we need to be more united even with our difference to accomplish the goal of betterment for us all as a people. The main issue I take with the “Privilege Walk” and other “Have and Have not” conversations is that it never really leaves you with a resolutions just a bunch of reopened wounds on both sides of the financial divide as to who had what and who couldn’t get what. A person’s spirit, intentions, and actions should be the ruler by which you judge someone not their ability or inability to be able to charge a shirt at Aeropostale at 16.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing I tend to not understand about you – after reading your responses it seems as if we had very very similar childhoods and you would have been standing in the same box as me with some other people more than a few steps behind us looking like “Oh G.D.. You’re one of them” Yet, you write as if your one of the people looking at the “privileged” from behind as they make excuses for their circumstances. I don’t claim to know you nor your background, but based solely on those answers – do you truly not understand the plight of the “black privileged” in an America that doesn’t believe he/she exist outside of the Cosby show &#8211; even amongst other blacks and even if they do that they’re automatically Oreos or less down for the cause? Do you acknowledge your own privilege and the avenues to success that it provided for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Aisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were the same or higher class than your high school teachers
Had more than 50 books in your childhood home
Were read children’s books by a parent
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18
The people in the media who dress and talk like me are portrayed our clothing was all bought new before you turned 18
Your parents bought you a car that was not a hand-me-down from them
There was original art in your house when you were a child
Had a phone in your room before you turned 18
You and your family lived in a single family house
Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home
You had your own room as a child
Had your own TV in your room in High School
Flew anywhere on a commercial airline before you turned 16

Your parents took you to museums and art galleries as you grew up
You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the same or higher class than your high school teachers<br />
Had more than 50 books in your childhood home<br />
Were read children’s books by a parent<br />
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18<br />
The people in the media who dress and talk like me are portrayed our clothing was all bought new before you turned 18<br />
Your parents bought you a car that was not a hand-me-down from them<br />
There was original art in your house when you were a child<br />
Had a phone in your room before you turned 18<br />
You and your family lived in a single family house<br />
Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home<br />
You had your own room as a child<br />
Had your own TV in your room in High School<br />
Flew anywhere on a commercial airline before you turned 16</p>
<p>Your parents took you to museums and art galleries as you grew up<br />
You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family</p>
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		<title>By: A Battle of Faith and Love &#187; Thoughts on Privilege&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Battle of Faith and Love &#187; Thoughts on Privilege&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] exercise on class privilege at Indiana State University, and it has gotten a great deal of comments and has started a some interesting debate. The items in bold are things that apply to me, and my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] exercise on class privilege at Indiana State University, and it has gotten a great deal of comments and has started a some interesting debate. The items in bold are things that apply to me, and my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: brran1</title>
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		<dc:creator>brran1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father went to college (graduateed with a degree in Mathematics)
Father finished college (he&#039;s a building inspector)
Mother finished college (Shes a nurse. Has been since 1976)
Had more than 50 books in your childhood home (Do encylopedias count?)
Were read children’s books by a parent (Before I was born and whil I was a toddler)
Had lessons of any kind before you turned 18 (Of course, who hasn&#039;t)
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18 (Of course, my parents taught me a range of different things.)
Went to summer camp (only for one summer)
Family vacations involved staying at hotels (One vacation with the entire immediate and extended fam to VA Beach.)
Had a phone in your room before you turned 18 (When I was 16. I rarely used the phone then, and I rarely use it now at 21.)
You and your family lived in a single family house (Yup. For 5 years and my mother has owned her semi-attached house since 1987.)
Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home (I still live at home lol and my mother has owned our house since 1987)
You had your own room as a child (From about 14 until the present)
Had your own TV in your room in High School (From 13 until..)
You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family (Of course, I don&#039;t think most kids grasped the concept of bills when we were younger.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father went to college (graduateed with a degree in Mathematics)<br />
Father finished college (he&#8217;s a building inspector)<br />
Mother finished college (Shes a nurse. Has been since 1976)<br />
Had more than 50 books in your childhood home (Do encylopedias count?)<br />
Were read children’s books by a parent (Before I was born and whil I was a toddler)<br />
Had lessons of any kind before you turned 18 (Of course, who hasn&#8217;t)<br />
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18 (Of course, my parents taught me a range of different things.)<br />
Went to summer camp (only for one summer)<br />
Family vacations involved staying at hotels (One vacation with the entire immediate and extended fam to VA Beach.)<br />
Had a phone in your room before you turned 18 (When I was 16. I rarely used the phone then, and I rarely use it now at 21.)<br />
You and your family lived in a single family house (Yup. For 5 years and my mother has owned her semi-attached house since 1987.)<br />
Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home (I still live at home lol and my mother has owned our house since 1987)<br />
You had your own room as a child (From about 14 until the present)<br />
Had your own TV in your room in High School (From 13 until..)<br />
You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family (Of course, I don&#8217;t think most kids grasped the concept of bills when we were younger.)</p>
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		<title>By: LH</title>
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		<dc:creator>LH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A redo: To whatever extent my upbringing was privileged, I believe it greatly aided in me starting a subscription to the orthodoxy of monolith. For that more than anything else, I am thankful.

My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A redo: To whatever extent my upbringing was privileged, I believe it greatly aided in me starting a subscription to the orthodoxy of monolith. For that more than anything else, I am thankful.</p>
<p>My apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: LH</title>
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		<dc:creator>LH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never answered the questions about this list, which I will now. I don&#039;t know that I&#039;d say the list is flawed, largely because I don&#039;t know what I&#039;d compared it to. Privilege, as the list indicates, is relative.

Perhaps tellingly, I think that some of the items aren&#039;t so much indicative of privilege as they are of what&#039;s likely a solidly middle class existence. And now that I think about it, some of the items struck me as incongruous, e.g., mention of original art work and heating bills.

To whatever extent my upbringing was privileged, I believe it served to preempt greatly aided in me starting a subscription to the orthodoxy of monolith. For that more than anything else, I am thankful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never answered the questions about this list, which I will now. I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d say the list is flawed, largely because I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;d compared it to. Privilege, as the list indicates, is relative.</p>
<p>Perhaps tellingly, I think that some of the items aren&#8217;t so much indicative of privilege as they are of what&#8217;s likely a solidly middle class existence. And now that I think about it, some of the items struck me as incongruous, e.g., mention of original art work and heating bills.</p>
<p>To whatever extent my upbringing was privileged, I believe it served to preempt greatly aided in me starting a subscription to the orthodoxy of monolith. For that more than anything else, I am thankful.</p>
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		<title>By: nichole</title>
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		<dc:creator>nichole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ll give this a go.

*Father went to college (he was accepted with a full athletic scholarship and won additional monies for writing but he went into the navy)
*Mother went to college (after i was in junior high school.)
*Have any relative who is an attorney, physician, or professor. (my uncle is a lawyer)
*Had more than 50 books in your childhood home
*Were read children’s books by a parent (i don&#039;t remember being read to as a child but i always had books, and my mother got me a subscription to sweet pickles. no, wait. i remember my mother reading me the hungry caterpillar, which is still my favorite children&#039;s book.)
*Had lessons of any kind before you turned 18 (clarinet, in middle school, during school hours)
*Went to a private high school (i went to a magnet school for arts. does that count? i also attended a magnet school for the sciences in junior high and was invited to attend magnet school for the arts during middle school but didn&#039;t want to &quot;appear white&quot; so i went to the hood school. after a friend ended up pregnant in 6th grade, i decided that &quot;being white&quot; because i was smart was better than being pregnant before i got my period more than once)
*Went to summer camp (one summer, and it was during the day. no overnight stuff. we were herded around on fisk&#039;s campus and made to sweat like pigs. we walked there and back). (oh. and my sister went to governor&#039;s school at mtsu for theatre and i participated in upward bound one summer).
*There was original art in your house when you were a child (that my mother, aunt, and paternal grandmother made)
*Had a phone in your room before you turned 18 (but this was after i had a job and paid for the line myself)
*You and your family lived in a single family house (we lived in the projects until it was time for me to go to school then we moved into a lower-middle class neighborhood where people go after they escape the projects)
*Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home (we got the hook-up on an older house via family connects. the house eventually burned in a fire b/c of faulty electrical wiring)
*Had your own TV in your room in High School (it was a gift from my mother&#039;s suitor at the time)
*Your parents took you to museums and art galleries as you grew up (we went to the parthenon once.)
*You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family (i knew we were always getting fussed at about the hot water bill and leaving windows and doors open because of bills. i never knew the exact amounts of anything. we didn&#039;t have central air/heating until i was in high school. i remember pipes freezing and busting and boiling hot water to wash up with. we also had to put out pots of water on top of the radiators when it got too hot b/c i got nosebleeds from the dry air)

to go a bit further...
*my parents divorced when i was 12
*father battled addiction and alcoholism which contributed to his inability to pay child support consistently
*in my late twenties, i found out that my mother supported our family of 5, then 4, on $20-25,000/year (she won&#039;t tell me the exact amount but my first salaried job was $27k in 2000- in new orleans- and she said that was more than she made while we were growing up)
*i qualified (and received) for free/reduced lunch all throughout my k-12 years
*i never flew until college
*my family never took vacations together until we were all adults

hm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll give this a go.</p>
<p>*Father went to college (he was accepted with a full athletic scholarship and won additional monies for writing but he went into the navy)<br />
*Mother went to college (after i was in junior high school.)<br />
*Have any relative who is an attorney, physician, or professor. (my uncle is a lawyer)<br />
*Had more than 50 books in your childhood home<br />
*Were read children’s books by a parent (i don&#8217;t remember being read to as a child but i always had books, and my mother got me a subscription to sweet pickles. no, wait. i remember my mother reading me the hungry caterpillar, which is still my favorite children&#8217;s book.)<br />
*Had lessons of any kind before you turned 18 (clarinet, in middle school, during school hours)<br />
*Went to a private high school (i went to a magnet school for arts. does that count? i also attended a magnet school for the sciences in junior high and was invited to attend magnet school for the arts during middle school but didn&#8217;t want to &#8220;appear white&#8221; so i went to the hood school. after a friend ended up pregnant in 6th grade, i decided that &#8220;being white&#8221; because i was smart was better than being pregnant before i got my period more than once)<br />
*Went to summer camp (one summer, and it was during the day. no overnight stuff. we were herded around on fisk&#8217;s campus and made to sweat like pigs. we walked there and back). (oh. and my sister went to governor&#8217;s school at mtsu for theatre and i participated in upward bound one summer).<br />
*There was original art in your house when you were a child (that my mother, aunt, and paternal grandmother made)<br />
*Had a phone in your room before you turned 18 (but this was after i had a job and paid for the line myself)<br />
*You and your family lived in a single family house (we lived in the projects until it was time for me to go to school then we moved into a lower-middle class neighborhood where people go after they escape the projects)<br />
*Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home (we got the hook-up on an older house via family connects. the house eventually burned in a fire b/c of faulty electrical wiring)<br />
*Had your own TV in your room in High School (it was a gift from my mother&#8217;s suitor at the time)<br />
*Your parents took you to museums and art galleries as you grew up (we went to the parthenon once.)<br />
*You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family (i knew we were always getting fussed at about the hot water bill and leaving windows and doors open because of bills. i never knew the exact amounts of anything. we didn&#8217;t have central air/heating until i was in high school. i remember pipes freezing and busting and boiling hot water to wash up with. we also had to put out pots of water on top of the radiators when it got too hot b/c i got nosebleeds from the dry air)</p>
<p>to go a bit further&#8230;<br />
*my parents divorced when i was 12<br />
*father battled addiction and alcoholism which contributed to his inability to pay child support consistently<br />
*in my late twenties, i found out that my mother supported our family of 5, then 4, on $20-25,000/year (she won&#8217;t tell me the exact amount but my first salaried job was $27k in 2000- in new orleans- and she said that was more than she made while we were growing up)<br />
*i qualified (and received) for free/reduced lunch all throughout my k-12 years<br />
*i never flew until college<br />
*my family never took vacations together until we were all adults</p>
<p>hm.</p>
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		<title>By: cindylu</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindylu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, what about simply growing up in a two-parent family? How come that&#039;s not on the list?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, what about simply growing up in a two-parent family? How come that&#8217;s not on the list?</p>
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		<title>By: cindylu</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindylu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks like a list that doesn&#039;t even begin to look at the privileges of citizenship and language, so I&#039;ll try to add some of mine that encompass those things.

Father and mother went to community college. Dad got an AA. Frankly, this puts me ahead of a lot of other Chican@s since going to CC meant that my parents graduated from a high school here.

&lt;em&gt;My parents read to me.&lt;/em&gt; Check. My father didn&#039;t make a lot of money, but we did fine on one income (four kids!) in the suburbs of LA. My mom didn&#039;t begin to work until my youngest brother started school, and even then she only works part-time and mainly during school hours.

&lt;em&gt;Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18&lt;/em&gt;. I took dance and swimming lessons. Participated in sports and church choir.

&lt;em&gt;Went to summer camp.&lt;/em&gt; Does a week camping with the Girl Scouts count?

&lt;em&gt;There was original art in your house when you were a child.&lt;/em&gt; Nope, but there is now! My mom loves painting.

&lt;em&gt;You and your family lived in a single family house. Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home.&lt;em&gt; Check.

&lt;em&gt;Had your own TV in your room in High School.&lt;/em&gt; Check.

&lt;em&gt;Owned a mutual fund or IRA in High School or College.&lt;/em&gt; Nope, but my siblings have this &#039;cause my dad got in to it later. I started my Roth IRA right after I graduated college.

&lt;em&gt;Flew anywhere on a commercial airline before you turned 16.&lt;/em&gt; Mexico! I also went to Australia and the UK. Yeah, I know.

&lt;em&gt;Went on a cruise with your family.&lt;/em&gt; Nope, but we&#039;ll be going later this year.

&lt;em&gt;Family vacations involved staying at hotels.&lt;/em&gt; Some, but definitely not all. I never thought of going to Las Vegas as a vacation.

&lt;em&gt;You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family.&lt;/em&gt; I&#039;m from LA, so this isn&#039;t relevant. However, we didn&#039;t have central air conditioning in our home. We&#039;d only use the boxy AC in the window when it was really hot.

Immigration stuff:
- Parents were legal immigrants.
- I was born here, thus citizenship or legal status was never an issue. I didn&#039;t have to worry about not being able to access things like financial aid.
- Fluency in two languages, especially English. Parents are fluent in both too. Thus, they never had issues communicating with any of my teachers or getting involved at school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like a list that doesn&#8217;t even begin to look at the privileges of citizenship and language, so I&#8217;ll try to add some of mine that encompass those things.</p>
<p>Father and mother went to community college. Dad got an AA. Frankly, this puts me ahead of a lot of other Chican@s since going to CC meant that my parents graduated from a high school here.</p>
<p><em>My parents read to me.</em> Check. My father didn&#8217;t make a lot of money, but we did fine on one income (four kids!) in the suburbs of LA. My mom didn&#8217;t begin to work until my youngest brother started school, and even then she only works part-time and mainly during school hours.</p>
<p><em>Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18</em>. I took dance and swimming lessons. Participated in sports and church choir.</p>
<p><em>Went to summer camp.</em> Does a week camping with the Girl Scouts count?</p>
<p><em>There was original art in your house when you were a child.</em> Nope, but there is now! My mom loves painting.</p>
<p><em>You and your family lived in a single family house. Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home.</em><em> Check.</p>
<p></em><em>Had your own TV in your room in High School.</em> Check.</p>
<p><em>Owned a mutual fund or IRA in High School or College.</em> Nope, but my siblings have this &#8217;cause my dad got in to it later. I started my Roth IRA right after I graduated college.</p>
<p><em>Flew anywhere on a commercial airline before you turned 16.</em> Mexico! I also went to Australia and the UK. Yeah, I know.</p>
<p><em>Went on a cruise with your family.</em> Nope, but we&#8217;ll be going later this year.</p>
<p><em>Family vacations involved staying at hotels.</em> Some, but definitely not all. I never thought of going to Las Vegas as a vacation.</p>
<p><em>You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family.</em> I&#8217;m from LA, so this isn&#8217;t relevant. However, we didn&#8217;t have central air conditioning in our home. We&#8217;d only use the boxy AC in the window when it was really hot.</p>
<p>Immigration stuff:<br />
- Parents were legal immigrants.<br />
- I was born here, thus citizenship or legal status was never an issue. I didn&#8217;t have to worry about not being able to access things like financial aid.<br />
- Fluency in two languages, especially English. Parents are fluent in both too. Thus, they never had issues communicating with any of my teachers or getting involved at school.</p>
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		<title>By: brran1</title>
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		<dc:creator>brran1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father went to college
Father finished college
Mother went to college
Mother finished college
Had more than 50 books in your childhood home
Were read children’s books by a parent
Had lessons of any kind before you turned 18
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18
Went to summer camp
Family vacations involved staying at hotels
Had a phone in your room before you turned 18
You and your family lived in a single family house
Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home
You had your own room as a child
Had your own TV in your room in High School
You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father went to college<br />
Father finished college<br />
Mother went to college<br />
Mother finished college<br />
Had more than 50 books in your childhood home<br />
Were read children’s books by a parent<br />
Had lessons of any kind before you turned 18<br />
Had more than two kinds of lessons before you turned 18<br />
Went to summer camp<br />
Family vacations involved staying at hotels<br />
Had a phone in your room before you turned 18<br />
You and your family lived in a single family house<br />
Your parent(s) owned their own house or apartment before you left home<br />
You had your own room as a child<br />
Had your own TV in your room in High School<br />
You were unaware of how much heating bills were for your family</p>
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