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	<title>Comments on: No Noose (Would&#039;ve Been) Good Noose.</title>
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		<title>By: David Bass Dancy</title>
		<link>http://www.postbourgie.com/2008/01/18/no-noose-wouldve-been-good-noose/comment-page-1/#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bass Dancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post I am here to share www.dancyscorner.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post I am here to share <a href="http://www.dancyscorner.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dancyscorner.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: slb</title>
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		<dc:creator>slb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GD: I guess the argument goes NBC or that niche magazine would also be &quot;well within their rights&quot; to stand behind their employees&#039; rights to freedom of expression/free speech. They reserve the right *not* to take a person&#039;s platform away, too.

Of course if they did stand behind their employees, they&#039;d still experience the social fallout you&#039;ve mentioned (reader/viewer boycotts, decline in sales, etc.), but what if they didn&#039;t? What if public outcry was tepid at best and neither NBC nor &lt;em&gt;Golfweek&lt;/em&gt; sustained a substantial loss in viewers or readers, post-slurs?

That&#039;d empower more people to hang nooses or to say whatever they&#039;d wish about whomever they wish without threat of serious consequence. I think this may have been what happened with Tilghman (if the Golf Channel does stick to its initial wrist-slap of two weeks off) and with the folks who continue to display nooses on college campuses or burn crosses in residential neighborhoods. They see that nothing much is being done to their predecessors (Imus got a new job; the initial noose-hangers in the Jena Six incident have yet to experience any of the ramifications of the Six themselves; and Tiger&#039;s agent claims he and Tilghman have &quot;been friends for years,&quot; making her statement a &quot;non-issue&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GD: I guess the argument goes NBC or that niche magazine would also be &#8220;well within their rights&#8221; to stand behind their employees&#8217; rights to freedom of expression/free speech. They reserve the right *not* to take a person&#8217;s platform away, too.</p>
<p>Of course if they did stand behind their employees, they&#8217;d still experience the social fallout you&#8217;ve mentioned (reader/viewer boycotts, decline in sales, etc.), but what if they didn&#8217;t? What if public outcry was tepid at best and neither NBC nor <em>Golfweek</em> sustained a substantial loss in viewers or readers, post-slurs?</p>
<p>That&#8217;d empower more people to hang nooses or to say whatever they&#8217;d wish about whomever they wish without threat of serious consequence. I think this may have been what happened with Tilghman (if the Golf Channel does stick to its initial wrist-slap of two weeks off) and with the folks who continue to display nooses on college campuses or burn crosses in residential neighborhoods. They see that nothing much is being done to their predecessors (Imus got a new job; the initial noose-hangers in the Jena Six incident have yet to experience any of the ramifications of the Six themselves; and Tiger&#8217;s agent claims he and Tilghman have &#8220;been friends for years,&#8221; making her statement a &#8220;non-issue&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: G.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SLB: Someone actually said that?

A person&#039;s right to say something doesn&#039;t protect them from social fallout regarding their words, like, say, losing your job at the head of a niche magazine. The host of The Today Show, say, has the right to yell &#039;I hate fags!&#039; at the top of his lungs, and NBC would be well within their rights to distance themselves from him for saying it. He is using their organ to say it, and they reserve the right to take that platform away from him.

Tighlman and this editor had the right to say what they said just as the people who watch her network or read his magazine have the right to complain about what they said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SLB: Someone actually said that?</p>
<p>A person&#8217;s right to say something doesn&#8217;t protect them from social fallout regarding their words, like, say, losing your job at the head of a niche magazine. The host of The Today Show, say, has the right to yell &#8216;I hate fags!&#8217; at the top of his lungs, and NBC would be well within their rights to distance themselves from him for saying it. He is using their organ to say it, and they reserve the right to take that platform away from him.</p>
<p>Tighlman and this editor had the right to say what they said just as the people who watch her network or read his magazine have the right to complain about what they said.</p>
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		<title>By: slb</title>
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		<dc:creator>slb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the argument i&#039;ve been seeing a lot of is the argument that free speech should insulate both the editor and the commentator from reprimand. it&#039;s been argued that racially incendiary language and images are protected under the first amendment and so no one should lose a job (or even have his/her wrist slapped with a two-week suspension) over his/her own freedom of expression.

what say you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the argument i&#8217;ve been seeing a lot of is the argument that free speech should insulate both the editor and the commentator from reprimand. it&#8217;s been argued that racially incendiary language and images are protected under the first amendment and so no one should lose a job (or even have his/her wrist slapped with a two-week suspension) over his/her own freedom of expression.</p>
<p>what say you?</p>
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		<title>By: G.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rawdawg: you think she was right? I&#039;m sure an argument could be made that what she said wasn&#039;t inherently racist, but this cover is in pretty bad taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rawdawg: you think she was right? I&#8217;m sure an argument could be made that what she said wasn&#8217;t inherently racist, but this cover is in pretty bad taste.</p>
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		<title>By: rawdawgbuffalo</title>
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		<dc:creator>rawdawgbuffalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually saw the comment and the scary thing is she was right, thats the only way can beat him, is to kill him, i didnt think it was racist.....great post....lets us not forget about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/thank-we-free.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; MLK &lt;/a&gt;this weekend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually saw the comment and the scary thing is she was right, thats the only way can beat him, is to kill him, i didnt think it was racist&#8230;..great post&#8230;.lets us not forget about the <a href="http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/01/thank-we-free.html" rel="nofollow"> MLK </a>this weekend</p>
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		<title>By: propaganda press</title>
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		<dc:creator>propaganda press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gimme a U
gimme a S
gimme a A
USA! USA! USA!

free.dumb.just.us and de.mockery
this surprises you? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gimme a U<br />
gimme a S<br />
gimme a A<br />
USA! USA! USA!</p>
<p>free.dumb.just.us and de.mockery<br />
this surprises you? lol</p>
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		<title>By: GVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>GVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the same thing as G.D., the “apology” just acknowledged our obvious outrage over such an offensive cover without taking ownership of producing such a negative cover. I also hate the use of the word provocative in their statements and any others when something like this happens as justification to do anything offensive under the guise of boundary pushing ________ (fill in the blank).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the same thing as G.D., the “apology” just acknowledged our obvious outrage over such an offensive cover without taking ownership of producing such a negative cover. I also hate the use of the word provocative in their statements and any others when something like this happens as justification to do anything offensive under the guise of boundary pushing ________ (fill in the blank).</p>
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		<title>By: G.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wording of the apology bothers me; &quot;We&#039;re sorry the cover offended you&quot; and not &quot;We&#039;re sorry we ran an offensive cover.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wording of the apology bothers me; &#8220;We&#8217;re sorry the cover offended you&#8221; and not &#8220;We&#8217;re sorry we ran an offensive cover.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: verdeluz</title>
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		<dc:creator>verdeluz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh for the love of god.

kind of makes you wonder how long they&#039;d been waiting to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh for the love of god.</p>
<p>kind of makes you wonder how long they&#8217;d been waiting to do that.</p>
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